Point to Ponder - Part I (by LGE)

BN and Gerakan, especially Datuk Dr Teng Hock Nan, must show proof or stop their shocking lies that the Penang Pakatan Rakyat government finalised the village land deal and sold Kampung Buah Pala to Koperasi Pegawai Pegawai Kanan Kerajaan Pulau Pinang(Koperasi). No amount of false reports by their “character assassins” will convince Penangnites that BN and Gerakan government did not robbed the Kampung Buah Pala residents of their land.

The declassification of EXCO minutes on 9.7.2009 shows that the BN state government under Tan Sri Dr Koh Tsu Koon were principally culpable for alienating their land twice to Koperasi Pegawai Kerajaan Pulau Pinang in EXCO meetings on 18.8.2004 and 8.6.2005 without consulting the residents. The land was alienated by BN at a ridiculously low land premium of RM 10 per square feet (when the market rate then was at least RM 50 psf) with unanimous support from all MCA, Gerakan, UMNO and MIC state EXCO members including Datuk Dr Teng Hock Nan.

Dr Teng has never repented and apologised for his part and Gerakan or BN’s role in selling out the Kampung Buah Pala residents of their land to the Koperasi at such cheap rates and without consulting them. And he is now blaming the PR state government for robbing the Kampung Buah Pala residents of their lands, a classic case of “the thief shouting thief”.

After losing their land which was “robbed” from them by BN, the BN land robbers treated them as illegal squatters with no rights to own their land. The EXCO minutes showed that BN had offered a RM 75,000 flat unit to Kampung Buah Pala residents. (see chronology attached)

Unlike BN’s harsh treatment of the Kampung Buah Pala residents as illegal squatters, the PR state government treated the residents as landowners who were allowed to stay by the original British landlord nearly 150 years ago. The PR state government worked hard to compel the developer to offer a double-storey terrace house with 99 years lease to the residents worth RM 600,000. This successful compensation by the PR state government to gain recognition for Kampung Buah Pala residents to remain as legal rightful landowners and not as illegal squatters to be given a RM 75,000 flat unit which is widely recognised as the best in Malaysian history.

Once the decision of the BN state EXCO has been conveyed by approval letters for land alienation and development orders sent out to Koperasi and the developer, the state government is legally bound. There is nothing the new PR government can do as it is bound by the decisions approved by BN. This was also affirmed by the Federal Court decision. The order for eviction and demolition was issued to the developer and not initiated by the state government.

BN is challenged to deny the fact that they had issued numerous letters of eviction to the residents when they were in power. In contrast, the new PR state government had never issued a single letters of eviction to the residents of Kampung Buah Pala. Similarly until now BN or Datuk Dr Teng can not show proof that I had promised that I would return the land back to the Kampung Buah Pala residents during the general elections as I did not even campaign there.

If BN And Gerakan Are So “Innocent” Of Their Guilt In Robbing Kampung Buah Pala Residents Of Their Land, Why Is It That Tan Sri Dr Koh Tsu Koon Dare Not Take Up His Own Challenge Of An Open Public Debate With Me On National Television?

Politicians can say the darndest things. Occasionally, they are humorous. More often than not, their glaring idiocy is evident by the ignorant statements that they issue and the desperate backpedalling to contain the damage afterwards. And then we have Penang State Traffic Management Committee chairman Dato’ Dr Teng Hock Nan who was reported by The Star to have said �buses with facilities for wheelchair passengers would have to stop longer for boarding and could disrupt arrival schedules.�

Hello Dr. Teng, what century are you living in? While many cities in other countries have already implemented inclusive transportation policies, here you are taking Penang and Malaysia back to the stone age of public transportation. Yabba dabba doo. Do you realise that bus schedules can be disrupted by many other factors including weather and traffic conditions, and buses breaking down? Why are you putting the blame on wheelchairs users only? Since you are so keen in ensuring that the buses keep to the arrival schedules, why not get cars, motorcycles, lorries and vans off the roads to eliminate traffic jams that Penang is now notorious for so as to ensure that the buses arrive right on the dot?

Dr. Teng, your logic truly baffles me. Let�s say there are ten people waiting for a bus at one stop. The time they take to board the bus will definitely be stretched by two to threefold as compared to the boarding duration of one or two passengers. Will this not disrupt arrival schedules as well? Is the bus going to pick these ten passengers up at the peril of messing up the bus schedule? Or are you only singling out wheelchair users for the delay because it is easier to victimise us?

Accessible buses have come long way from the early days when lifts were fitted to get wheelchairs into high-platform buses. Boarding a wheelchair-using passenger with the lift can take up to five minutes. The advancement in bus building technology and design has brought about the proliferation of non-step buses where unassisted boarding time for a wheelchair user was considerably reduced to less than one minute as compared to the thirty seconds taken by a non-wheelchair user. Therefore, your reasoning that boarding wheelchair users will delay the arrival schedule of buses is moot. How much headway can you gain from the extra thirty seconds?

You also said that “the state government will bring in buses equipped with facilities for wheelchair passengers once the new RapidPenang bus system is running smoothly.” How long will it take before the RapidPenang bus system will run smoothly? RapidKL has been at it since 2004 but the system is still far from perfect. What if the bus system continues to be plagued by kinks after ten years?

Truth be told Dr. Teng, your statement reeks of discrimination. In the same breath, you said that �such buses do not fit into the first phase of the RapidPenang bus service system which we have to ensure runs efficiently first.� By saying that, you have effectively segregated disabled persons from mainstream society. Fifty years ago in the USA, people were segregated in public buses based on their skin colour. Fifty years later in Malaysia, people are being denied the use of public buses based on their physical impairments. The issues may seem different but in reality it is different sides of the same coin.

Our nation is celebrating her fiftieth year of Independence. If we still cannot get this right after fifty years, we have not progressed at all. Apakah maksudnya kemerdekaan sekiranya segolongan masyarakat masih sengaja disisihkan dari arus pembangunan negara? It is also ironic that we will soon have a Malaysian in the International Space Station 350km above us but a wheelchair user cannot even travel conveniently from his house in Gelugor to Gurney Drive which is a distance of about 20km apart only.

Disabled persons must be included in mainstream society. We are the public. We are you. Why are you treating us like second class citizens in our own country? Why must the needs of society at large precedes those of disabled persons? Can we not grow at the same pace? Disabled person are already lagging so far behind in all aspects. Now that the government has the opportunity and the resources to help bridge the gap, you are still not willing to do it. Why? These are questions begging answers. Public transport must be for all, not only for those who can walk. Apa macam Dr. Teng?

Chicken Teng or Chickadee Tung,

First, i would really salute and respect you for writing up so good and so wonderful comments over here for us the reader and also the rakyat to see.
U really taken up the time n effort for telling penang folks the truth and what is really going on on past Gerakan/Koh administration that we the rakyat difficult to see from the mainstream media.

Many of your comments abouve is what i have commented over here on this blog since day 1 about this useless Gerakan and their lame leader and also their evil master UMNO. If you hv time, u can browse and glance thru all the old post and look for the comments of mine. Unfortunately some of my comments have been removed by blog admin(or certain leader instruction?) without valid and proper reason. They have done comments cleansing over here. This is what gerakan today that come to this extend. From what u comments above, obviouly gerakan is already political bankrupt and rakyat have lost faith on them. They are in the struggle for their political survival currently.

I just wish i hv the same command of english just like you so that i can express more details and smooth to the readers over here. I do hope there will be more readers and commenter like you that believe in equality, justice, freedom, fairness to voice out their concern and thoughts over here.

Keep on writing and post more comments from time to time if you have things to share. Looking forward for your comments again.

Chicken Teng,

Stroke of a pen, i believe is first used by P. Uthayakumar, the HINDRAF leader.

Chikeedee Tung,

Is only fair if DAP also disclose their EXCO minutes on KG Buah Pala issue for all to read as LGE had disclosed BN. Let me put it another way to u, do u know what going on during the EXCO meeting? Many want to know! Or we never know for sure what really being discuss! If LGE has nothing to hide and really practise CAT principles he has a DUTY to disclose it. Only then, i think everyone can be convince what he claim to be true! Please be fair also to BN

Finally, i urge whoever is concern about the issue to attend the meeting as the representative of Kg Buah pala will also be present. Hear what he has to say.

I personally have drawn my own conclusion long ago. If u want to know - both BN and PR are at fault. One initiate the transaction and another completed it - to be fair to all. No one is clean in this issue, agree? PR also wanted the money from the land sale like BN in the first place. Anyway i hope those who attend will report it in this blog for those who can’t attend to read if there’s any surprise! Thanks.

Dear All,
the only way for Gerakan to survive in Penang is all the previous candidate of gerakan in the last GE do not recontest. They have been rejected by penangites.I hope those leader will not be selfish for their own personal political ambition.

Chicken Teng,

Leaders of PR, especially DAP, in their election manifesto (before & after 308), gave lots of inticing promises to Kg. Buah Pala residents.  Among other things, such as their houses wouldn’t be demolished; they could stay on; their land wouldn’t be developed etc., if PR were to gain power in Penang. Ater winning, the failure to materialise their promises is actually a major blemish of Kg. Buah Pala controversy!

I really don’t agree with you as you have alleged that Datuk Dr. Teng is adding fuel to the fire which causes racial animosities between Indians & Chinese.In actual facts, it is an animosity between the residents of KBP & DAP-led state government! In my opinion, the causes are as follows:

1) The previous state Government had put off the transfer of the land until relocation issues were satifactorily settled, but DAP-led government issued the land-title two weeks after gaining power!

2) KBP residents had made request to CM LGE twice to come to their kampung, but CM LGE didn’t oblige, only sent agents instead!

3) Committee members of KBP residents association were barred from wanting to see CM LGE & his deputy in KOMTAR.

4) Demanded the remaining residents who wanted compensation to publicly apologise the PR state Government and drop all legal actions.

5) So inhumane when the demolition of their houses were done while they were still living there!

6) When demolition works were carried on, none of PR representatives were there.(including Seri Delima Assemblyman RSN Rayer)

7) CM LGE gave numerous reasons he couldn’t save the kampung, such as lack of political power, high cost of relocation, having to look after other Penangites etc. just as excuses.  When residents turned to PM & UMNO for help, CM LGE said :“washing my hands” of the issue.

CM LGE should honour Tan Sri Dr. Koh’s request to declassify & make public all state Exco meeting- minutes on KBP & certified copies of land-titles and other relevent documents related to KBP issue in order to be fair!  The same demand was made by MIC Youth chief T. Mohan & president of residents’ association KBP, so that they can also be used during the debate as well as sending representatives & legal counsels to take part! If not so,CM LGE has lots of things to hide & CAT policy is a rhetorical slogan!

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I believe you guys have been fooled. The above 1st three articles were cut and paste from various blogs, including one from LGE’s personal blog.

Anyway, to me, the residents of KBP had themselves to blame. I had stated this in my previous posting, the KBP residents were just pushing for more and more. When the developer had made a better offer, they would rescind it in the hope of getting an even better offer. They have burnt their own finger. Either greed got to them or they have been made use of by parties with agendas of their own.

The piece of land they have been staying on was not cultivated land apart from them rearing their cows, thus the residents there cannot claim that they have contributed to the development of the area. I bet most Penangites would not even know of the existence of KBP before this saga. Basically, the residents of KBP are squatters, as they do not own the land, neither do they possess the title to the land. Claiming that the land is rightfully theirs by long term occupation does not carry any weight.

For those ignorant of the law, please see excerpts from the Land Code.

“Under the National Land Code 1965 (the Code) which is based on the Torrens sytem, registration is
everything. Mere occupation of land without proper registration would not be recognised even though
such occupation occurred since time immemorial. It is clearly stated in the section 425 of the National
Land Code 1965 that it is an offence to occupy or to erect any building or run any activities on state
land, reserved land or mining land without lawful authorisation.6 The Code does not provide the
requirement of notice before evicting the occupier or demolishing the building or destroying of any crops
on the said land. Section 426A(1)(c) of the same code provides that the person squatting on the land
also can be arrested without warrant of arrest while section 426A(1)(b) justifies that any property seized
from illegal occupiers shall belonged to the state.”

I may sound cruel, but I believe they deserved their just deserts. At least they still have a landed house as compensation. Pray tell how many of us live in landed properties or can afford one in Penang Island.

Desmand,

Really appreciate your courage to comments and make things clear about KBP issue else those cats simply hamtam and mislead the reader here including their own members(perhaps this is what its trying to do…)

Penang folks already know gerakan hv nothing to show to rakyat only this KBP issue that they hold on tight as they already political bankrupt after lost on previous election and their master UMNO also treat gerakan like their mistress that have play bore and no more useful for them as majority rakyat especially chinese also reject gerakan.

Let them do the KBP show at their own premises(Pg HQ) whether the fact are made to believe is questionable since this is the only thing that gerakan have with them for their political struggle n survival. Perhaps they can make a come back on this issue. who knows. As saying, politic is the art of possible.

@ Bluesky

I support your statement. Both sides should just “Show Hands” in gambling speak.

Desmond,

In other word, when BN gov first ‘sold off’ the land, it is legal, right?

Second, I am glad u also support the disclosure of the PR EXCO minute

Finally, would u agree from what we know now, that both sides were at fault, looking at the fact that one started it and another comsumate it?

Beside, other than Sugumaran story, u didn’t rebutt other claims by Xiao Ah Mao of PR promises before 308 to the KBP residents and their actions during demolition. Are these claims also wrong facts?

Like to hear ur comments on these questions.

Karen, better behave yourself..talk the correct and proper..

Desmond, even former govt’s exco minute has been disclosed, are there everything?...don’t think so la..lim guan eng very smart one…show a bit hide abit

Karen,

I strongly support Bluesky’s view!

The Malay pepatah you used over here, is indeed, having sensitive racial sentiments, which I think, undoubtedly will have adverse effects on the 1-Malaysia Concept, mooted by our PM Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak.

Penangites,

I think, the Perak ADUN you had mentioned, already apologised for her bad-mouthing.

From your comment, I’m just wondering, how & what had your teachers taught you, when you were at schools before ?

Should we all learn & follow GOOD or BAD examples ?

Should we all have GOOD or BAD behaviours ?

Should we all be WELL-MANNERED or ILL_MANNERED ?

Should we all behave POLITELY or RUDELY ?

I don’t know whether you had already married & have children or not.  If so, how are you going to teach your own children ?

Penangites,

I think you are too sensitive! There isn’t any personal-attack (it is not my intention at all),as regards to the contents of my comment, therefore, the question of personal-attack doesn’t arise at all.

I’m not questioning your educational background.  You should read my words carefully & fully understand them.  I only touch on your mannerism & behaviour in posting comments.

The Malay pepatah used by Karen, as I think, is not appropriate as it is contrary to PM’s 1-Malaysia Concept! But you quote & compare it with what had been uttered by one Perak ADUN.  My aim is to tell you that Karen should not follow BAD EXAMPLES !

We all should follow good example, good manner, good behaviour, be polite & so on ! So please don’t be mistaken!

Why question i should behave?

Off course when we have this kind of mentality stand here there on the fence, how to bring changes to the country.
Just imagine sugumaran is here at gerakan hq tonite.

Why think the pepatah racial sentiment?
ITs taught in schools too.

The pepatah is rite has proven to sugumaran.
Another one is “siapa makan cili, dia rasa pedas”.

1Malaysia…we are all laughing at it after Budget 2010. So much for 1Malaysia.

karen,

For them(the sky n the cat), they will pretend by make themselves so innocent, pure when the “snake” is on their side. U think they dont think so on their mind personally if they really born, raise, grew up in malaysia. They just wear mask n talk cock here to cheat reader with their big slogan 1 Malaysia here to make them look good.

It is proven on tonight forum that i witness for myself personally with my own eye and ear. really eye n ear opener on tonite forum. 1 fox and 2 snakes, PK Subbaiyah (Former State Exco) and Sukumaran (Chairman Kampung Buah Pala Residents Association).

I hv to stress that i not say all indian is like that but it is a reality that many of them is like that even i hv indian fren consist of muslim n hindu background. This pepatah was way back during the british colonial time that the englishmen already kena by the snake and the people that time just make it as a pepatah n pass it generations till now. If is not true/real, it wont be a pepatah and people wont continue to use it for so long till today. If u still remember, even the Perak UMNO ADUN Fatimah say it so loud n smooth during the state assembly which is recorded, no jokes !! Now her nickname is ular in Perak. It is on rakyat mindset already, is a pepatah but is not a sin.

Desmond,

u seems to read my mind and just that i unable to express out such wonderful comments that u posted above with my poor command of english as i was chinese educated and i was get insult by them few times. As u know, i not fancy PR but for sure, PG Gerakan cant be supported for the next 5 to 10 years unless there is major changes on the party leadership and also their members mindset. Gerakan need revolution and reformation. One word - CHANGE !!!!

U should come tonite for the forum. Perhaps u also there. Hope the video will be available soon on youtube for more people n rakyat to see.

I believe no one in Gerakan can answer my question directly.

Desmond,

I am trully glad to exchange view with u over the other guy who seem to have problem understanding our points.

U and not the other guy should use name penangite as i can feel ur sincerity over penang issue. I am an outsider, that’s why i can only comment at general level.

I admire ur sincerity in admiting PR may not work out as a coalition and function as one. This is a point i have been trying to put across for a long time here.

I would admit that from the auditor general report indeed PR have show good achievment over the last year in penang.

I, as well as u and some others here are for good governance. I have said before and i will say again, rakyat deserve the best gov. If DAP can continue to deliver good things in penang, I believe they will continue to get the people support.

Though i am a gerakan member, i am not blind. I can and will support PR for their good gov but not islamic state of course! I personally believe BN is positively influence by PR over this matter of good gov.

Down here in perak, i was told that not all tender by previous PR gov are open tender, i was told that logging was not and also i was told that some PR leaders are now ‘fat’ also.

As for KBP issue, I can’t understand what the fellow who call himself penangites reported. I will wait for the official here or elsewhere. But i believed and still believe both sides have their flaws in this issue.

After saying all these, I would still like to remind everyone that PR like BN are also human. That’s why there always the need for check and balance and by having a strong opposition, be it PR or BN is always the best for us, the ordinary citizen.

For this, i would suggest that all penangites who read this should also consider voting in some BN chinese ADUNs for check and balance especially u guys out there may still want to give PR another term simply because ‘hand itchiness’ may start to creap in after 1 term - just for all to consider soberly.

Teh Tarik Forum on KBP

Media had already given brief reports on the above mentioned forum. I just want to add a few of my views:

1) Attendance was very encouraging. A big crowd.

2) It was conducted according to schedule, orderly , smoothly & successfully through out.

3) Contents of the talks, some of them, some way or another, I had already mentioned in my previous comments on KBP.

4) Undeniable Video records(before 308), depicting Datuk Seri Anwer, Karpal Signh & Rayer, who made enticing election promises, were shown clearly & audibly :” UNDILAH KAMI ! Sekiranya kami menang dan tubuhkan kerajaan, KBP akan dikekalkan dan anda semua akan tinggal di KBP buat selama-lamanya.”

5) After 308, PR took over Penang government, CM LGE received sale of KBP balance payment from koperasi P.K. Penang on 14/03/2008 & prossessed & transferred land title to kopersi on 27/03/2008.

6) When attending Pesta Ponggal KBP on 18/01/ 2009, ADUN Seri Delima YB Rayer had again pledged (guaranteed) residents KBP that as long as PR is in power, they will “Akan dikekalkan buat selama-lamanya.”

7) Why? their land had alredy been transferred by CM LGE to kopersi, but YB Rayer still making promises? That was sheer lying! lying! lying!

8) During question time, lots of participants raised their quries, however,they were all tackled by Datuk Dr.Teng & MIC chairman Datuk PK Subbaiyah, satisfactorily & amiably.  Of course, there were dissenting voices & opinions, but were all under controlled. There weren’t such things as “totally defeated” & “a big blow & humiliation to Gerakan”, as so claimed by “Penangites”!

9) Finally, MC limited the number of questions because time was getting late !

you all are hitting the bushes where the snake don’t bite.

no doubt Gerakan is to be blamed for all the mess that was left behind, but why you all let the BIG snake loose and let em having a good laff ?

the 2004 Penang State Administration consists of the following numbskulls.

  * Dr Koh Tsu Koon - Industrial Development and International Trade, Town and Country Planning Committee
  * Abdul Rashid Abdullah - Religious Affairs, Land Affairs and Land Development, Entrepreneurial Development and Cooperatives Committee
  * Dr Teng Hock Nan - Local Government, Traffic Management, Information and Community Relations Committee
  * Koay Kar Huah - Public Works, Utilities (Energy, Water, Telecom), Transportation (Air, Sea and Rail) Committee
  * Azhar Ibrahim - Agriculture and Agro-based Industry, Rural Development, Flood Mitigation Committee

The Key person is Abdul Rashid Abdullah, who was back then in charge of the land affairs and land development in Penang. He is also the puppet master who controlled Koh Tsu Koon.

Why Gerakan did not invite this fella to the Teh Tarik event is not a suprise to me, but why DAP let this fella off the hook, that baffles me tho.

Hantu UMNO,

I do agree with your comments, but u think Gerakan will ask that UMNO fella Abdul Rashid who is the main culprit of many penang land scam during Gerakan/Koh administration and also Gerakan master to come? Even gerakan do invite, u think he will turn up?

Dont forget, he was ask by CM LGE couples of times via various channels to show face on penang state office to help investigate and answer for those land scam cases and yet he refuse to turn up. U think gerakan so stupid to ask him to surface again on the forum and let the public question him and with possibility of expose those scandal that Gerakan involves in and during the process. If he or UMNO was to found guilty, for sure he will drag those involves from Gerakan as well. For sure Gerakan will try their very best to protest him in order to take care both party(GERAKAN & UMNO) long term interest. This is the rules of political games.

Gerakan should learn from their master(UMNO) that those cases/scandal that involves their party during BN/Gerakan/UMNO administration, they stay very low profile compare to Gerakan that do other wise. Like people use to say, when u r in deep shit, better keep your mouth shut(quiet). This is the only issue that gerakan have to tarnish current PR administration as Gerakan already political bankrupt after lose in election and no more blessing from its long time master UMNO. Lets see how long gerakan will keep holding KBP issue, perhaps till coming GE? becomes their legacy.

Dr.Teng, Dr.Koh

Can u both feel shame?? If Gerakan still in power in penang, many penang folks believe this kind of compensation will not be and never happen. Luckily BN/Gerakan lost power and take over by PR goverment.

U both started this KBP saga with greed together with your good old corrupted mater UMNO during BN ruling and the shit pass and blame to current PR administration after losing power.

Even those KBP resident was influence and used by BN/Gerakan/MIC to make protest and tarnish current PR administrative and was advice to reject the offer due to residentS own greed and BN/Gerakan/MIC hidden agenda, those resident should not get any compensation, even the court hv ruled. And yet, now they are getting the highest compensation that makes the history of penang compensation. Never ever happen b4 during BN ruling since independent till now. The land that is not belongs to them and yet they get to stay on the same land with double storey landed property in penang which is very valueable. Those folks even work for generatios also cannot afford to own it by themselves. The actual winner of this event is KBP residents even though many rakyat opinion that they shouldn’t get so wonderful/fantastic compensation due to their own greed and being used by BN/MIC/Gerakan as their tool. Many others residents that hv been force to move away from their long stay home for generation for developement during Gerakan administrative are very unhappy n feel not fair. How u going to answer and face those residents during your ruling??

KBP issue is not a issue anymore after this compensation, is best for gerakan to look forward, concentrade and focus on yr energy to do more for the rakyat benefit instead of holding this legacy of gerakan during Gerakan administrative, it will do gerakan no help and just tarnish your own party image that is already very bad currently.

Time have proven on Gerakan. Dr.Teng, pls dont ever say this on the press that CM can save KBP with a stroke of a pen. it have becomes rakyat laughing stock. U should say this to your own boss Dr.Koh instead during his administration. Your party have come to this extend, why can’t u learn and change?

槟公务员合作社特大接受献议 赔偿豆蔻村24双层排屋
二零零九年十一月一日 上午十时三十一分

(槟城31日讯)豆蔻村地主即槟州政府公务员合作社，在周六举行的会员特大会议上，一致通过议案，接受向村民赔偿24间双层排屋的献议。

据了解，会上有社员提出不认同上述双层排屋献议，然而在面对州政府可能施加的各种限制下，只好作出让步。

该社社长阿都拉萨在记者会上宣布特大一致接受赔偿24个单位的双层排屋献议，并强调这是“最终献议”，不会再接受进一步要求，此外也施加条件，要求其中10个单位必须保留较早搬迁的受影响村民。

他指出，其中的12个单位保留给较早接受献议的豆蔻村村民。拉萨承认较早的献议是在豆蔻村加盖33个单位双层排屋献议赔偿给村民；为示公平，我们要求保留其中的10个单位给较早迁出的村民。

在问及该项双层排屋计划对地主造成的损失时，阿都拉萨说所蒙损的损失并不明显；在问及合作社在计划下所获取的利润时，他则表示尚言之过早，反之计划的延误等则造成该社与发展商尚忙于计算所蒙受亏损。

惟他也承认，合作社在计划下已先获得好处，包括获得两间三层楼的店屋单位等。在问及是否面对反贪污委员会的介入调查，以及继续面对法律诉讼时，阿都拉萨说没有面对反贪污委员会的传召，也没有任何的法律诉讼缠身。

与此同时，他表示，豆蔻村发展计划将在11月11日进行推展。目前该社有3000多名的社员。

另一方面，今夜召开的公务员合作社常年大会已通过，赔偿24栋排屋给豆蔻村村民。针对此事，林冠英说：这是州政府及豆蔻村村民的胜利。

@ A gerakan youth member

what do you expect from someone who can’t even have his hair done right?

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while saying so, he is asking his dad to do the very best to make Tian Chua lost his Batu Seat and hoping a chance to be an MP le ...

As a youth in gerakan, I feel so shame to see how our youth leader Lim Si Pin bring shame to our party.
I was reading Star this morning. It was very embarassing. He talk about using beliawanis to attract more member in pemuda. Does he think pemuda are sex crazy…..come on we are political party. we need people to work for the people and not join gerakan for the women or just to make gerakan youth look like a lot but no work done!!!
No wonder wanita n beliawanis hitting at him. Can someone please tell him to grow up!!!

As for the low attendance, I was told that actually it was less than 20%. Where got even near 40%????
And don’t scold your own pemuda CC. Look at yourself first.
People not interested to go because don’t want to make themself associated with such a joke youth leader. How can we compare with other component party like Khairy, Wee Ka Siong or even T.Mohan???
If this is the future leader of gerakan, then party better close shop now.

eh penang youth,

did you go for the youth NDC? Anyway, I didn’t go.
Totally waste of time. You want to listen to what that idiot Lim Si Pin talk? yawn…..all full of shit.
Just see his stupid idea to ask the beliawanis to join pemuda ..... he think Pemuda is going to be a Sex Club ah?

penangite,
are you trying to suggest an EGM for gerakan youth?

we should give sometime for lim si pin to learn how to be the youth chief. He only take over 1 year.
Gerakan youth should remember that his father Lim Keng Yaik is the advise of the party and had built gerakan for a very long time. Didn’t gerakan youth members know this?

Can someone please tell Lim Keng Yaik….......don’t force your son into politics. He is not fit to be a leader in gerakan.
Don’t treat gerakan like your family business

There is a serious lack of “quality substance” in the human factor within Gerakan. Youth leaders are groomed to take over from the older generation but seriously, Gerakan needs to comb around to fill this void. The Youth leaders have a tendency to make ridiculously sounding statements which makes the whole party look incompetent.

I have no issues with a father to son handover if the leader in waiting is competent and up to mark. But as James correctly points out, he should not be forced into it if he lacks the quality of a leader.

The ultimate humilation would be the lack of respect he commands from his underlings. If only a third of his CC turns up for his meeting, the leaders who put him in his position should sit up and take note of this situation. If there is a failure to act, Gerakan is on its way out.

I was fainted when read the news from MalaysiaKini wrote about the youth hanging banner and protest to defend their big boss. No other better than this way?

More blow to Gerakan KPI/Super minister, this time taken way too long to answer in parliament, again, he prove himself very super not effective n unproductive, how to perform his job? no wonder PM/Najib hv observe earlier that he cannot deliver and ask Idrus Jala to step in to help him.

（吉隆坡2日讯）早前被轰经常缺席国会的首相署部长丹斯里许子根今日在国会利用22分钟回答两道提问后引起众国会议员的反感，并被讥讽应利用关键表现指标（KPI）控制自己在3分钟内回答完毕。

许子根一波未平一波又起，刚面对被轰下台的窘境，今日出席国会的他更面对一众国会议员的争相讽刺。

许子根起先是面对新邦令金国会议员梁德明提问，为何6项国家关键领域（KRA）没有纳入国民团结为其中一环？

岂知，许子根从政府成立国家关键领域及关键表现指标的目的、功能及程序皆一一详细叙述。待许子根答话至第10分钟时，一些国会议员便开始起哄并开腔抗议。

在一片的抗议声浪中，一些国会议员高喊“够了”、“回答无需这么长”。其中一把声音更建议许子根身为“KPI部长”，应该控制回答在3分钟内完成。

更有趣的是，也有国会议员直接揶揄许子根是为了在四加亭国会议员莫哈末阿兹面前表现，才会准备了这么仔细的答案。

许子根反驳道，“我回答太短不行，答详细也不行....”。议长为调停争执则说，因已有9位国会议员提出相同问题，因此许子根才需要详细地回答。

斗湖国会议员拿督蔡顺梅稍后也提出附加提问，关键表现指标为何要由两位部长同时负责？而哪一位部长才是上级（Senior）？蔡顺梅提问完毕后即刻引来各国会议员轻蔑性的狂笑，羞辱味道浓烈。

许子根缓慢站起回答：“我们没有排位，他（依得利斯）是协助及向我汇报”。

阿都嘉夫斥许子根　发音念错选区名称

不满许子根发音不准确，阿都嘉夫斥许子根应在赴国会前认真念好“卡拉巴干”选区名称。

首相署部长丹斯里许子根今日在国会问答环节中不慎把“卡拉巴干”念成“可巴拉甘安”（Kebelakangan）。卡拉巴干国会议员拿督阿都嘉夫在国会走廊批评许子根身为部长，连选区名称这种小事都能念错，实属不该。

他认为，国阵一些成员党都面对内部问题，因此马华、民政及国大党都应该自行“清理门户”，不要把问题带到外面以制造宣传效果。

不过，他强调国阵还是与它们成为合作夥伴，但前提是它们必须自行解决内部问题。

Dr.Kwan,

Thks for sharing this article. Thinking of it, u think gerakan with it current weak and lame leader like Koh, will he lead gerakan to leave BN and become independent 3rd force? I pretty sure even majority of their members and middle level leaders agree/wish to do that, but with Koh this kind of attitude and weak leadership he sure die die wont do that. He is just a selfish leader that put his own priority on top on his political party.

Time have proven Koh. Even UMNO also cannot tahan Koh this kind of weak/lame leadership and cause his party and BN to lose big on last GE especially penang administration that effected their(UMNO) many kangtau.

Gerakan was blame, main reason due to Koh leadership during that time. He cant even decide which candidate for Penang CM post to replace him for long time until Pak Lah openly say if he cant decide, he will decide for Koh. No need to mention Penang UMNO openly tear off his official CM portrait in front of all media.

That time gerakan should leave BN with majority members wishes and yet he still hold tight to UMNO leg, and his loyalty was paid back with a back door super minister after 1 year, but he let Najib very disappointed with his performance and unable to deliver and making UMNO MPs openly criticise him on Parliament until Najib need to defend him on Gerakan AGM. I believe if the unhappy voices keep growing within UMNO and other BN components party toward the lame/weak Koh, Najib will hv to let him go in matter of time. Najib wont jeopardize his own party and BN for 1 super lame weak gerakan leader and not performing cabinet minster and keep on protect and defend him never ending. BN and rakyat will question Najib leadership on that.

He let Najib down, let BN shame, let rakyat disappointed and let gerakan how??? Perhaps that best part to let gerakan members to input/comments accordingly.

We should view the incident of Sri Gading MP Datuk Mohamad Aziz’s calling for Datuk Seri OTK & Tan Sri Dr. KTK’s resignation, from various perspectives, not only confine to one!

Just ponder further, OTK was the one who initiated & dug out the PKFTZ scandal, while KTK had recently proposed to set up Royal commission of inquiry to probe into the scandal.

Whether OTK & KTK, as ministers, failed to live up to expectations, is for the PM, their own political parties and the people to judge, NOT the MP or MPs!

They should respect PM’s decision! To me, what is most important is the ability, capability & highly committed to serve the people, society & nation. Just as Deng Xiao Ping’s saying goes: “No matter if it is a white cat or a black cat, as long as it can catch mice, it is a good cat”!

People are wondering whether the MP was acting on instructions of some one or if he was taking advantage of certain political developments to further his personal agenda !

small ah cat,

u talk so great and good about yr own party and your leader, but u have to admit and agree that currently u r having this very lame/weak not performing Koh as your leader n president that become everybody target from out(opposition) to within(BN/UMNO and components party) and he cant even do anything about it. What can u do about it?? It your own lame/weak leader, not your opponent leader. U cannot denied the truth n facts and blindly protect him just simply bcos u r gerakan member n Koh is your boss. Be realistic.

In the BN history so far, there is no such lame/weak leader before until Koh become Gerakan president. U n me also penang lang(penangites), u me n penang folks also very clear n knew that Koh was a very weak/lame Penang CM during his administration and many decision and policy also influence by UMNO. Go ask other penang folks out there n they will tell u in your face that Gerakan Koh is no power PENANG CM and puppet to UMNO. I dont blame u as u r doing a good job protecting your boss, but u must also see the actual facts, truth and happening. Dont get the syndrome of denial. If what i say is not truth n facts, u think rakyat and even your own member agree with me?

I am one of the youth member of Gerakan and I just come back yesterday night to Penang.
I agree with one of the comments here byPenang Youth that the attendance is less than 300 people. I was there and i only see about 200 people during the meeting. That is only about 20% only.
Not only our youth chief is an idiot but he is a liar.
Why Lim Si Pin want to blame CC Youth for low attendance? or youth cannot wake up?
The real reason people don’t want to attend is because they have no confidence with LSP leadership after see how he perform over 1 year. So, most don’t want to waste time to attend to listen to his nonsense.
Just see what the media write about him…....I almost thinking of resigning from the youth gerakan. Spoil my own name only.

I have given my view in Andy yong’s blog. I hope all gerakan members who comment here would take the trouble to read my comment in Andy yong blog, if u are interested to know my view. Thanks for the trouble. I am lazy to rewrite.

I don’t know how to cut and paste, maybe penangite can help me!!! Thanks.

wiseguy,

thks for introduce this blog, seems like andy share the same view with me. most of what he write, the words he use and the message already being use by me over here since this blog started. I hv read his article and your comments also input some comments. Do visit if interested.

Penangites

you think the party seniors can accept change?

karen,

Gerakan senior especially LKY already have clear plan on his mind as he treated gerakan like his own family business that he want his son LSP to inherit Gerakan in future. KTK just his puppet inside gerakan that listen and follow what LKY advice while outside Gerakan is UMNO puppet/lapse dog. For sure Gerakan under KTK leadership is not going anywhere and no where until a new leader are born and take place.

Gerakan is in dilemma currently as they have a very weak/lame leader and at the same time they dont have any capable leader to take over or replace him, so gerakan hv no choice but to let KTK stay as long as possible until someone with strong leadership born and take place in future. If Gerakan simply ask or force KTK to step down without someone capable and strong leadership take over, gerakan will split and in chaos. This is what the party senior dont want to see after they hv build up their own empire for so long. It is similar case with MIC & Sammy.

Do share your view/opinions.

For gerakan to survive, we still KTK to lead the party until next GE or party election. We need to give him 100% support.

KTK must train up a good leader to replace him in next party election. People like lim keng yaik’s son (lim si pin) don’t have the quality to lead gerakan. Just see what he comments in the media about his own party member cannot wake up, poor attendance in youth ndc, asking beliawanis to join pemuda and use their beauty to lure the youth….....that’s all non-sense.
Not to forget also the blunder he cause during the anti-ISA protest (which many people say he betray the GMI at the last minute).
THat’s all not good for the party.

KTK must not be forced to accept LKY’s succession plan if that is not good for the party.
Personally, I hear that KTK does not with to follow LKY plan and to groom up his son. But what choice does KTK have when LKY is controlling the party.
I believe KTK will resign if the party do badly in next GE! THere is no need to press him to resign now.

brian,
are you saying that your youth chief Lim Si pin lied to the reporter?
Can anyone else who attending meeting confirm this (I was not there)?

andy yong,

surprisingly my comments resurface. It was confirm removed after post for an hour after mid night.

U see, even your own party member/comrade openly criticise, humiliate and stop you from moving forward inside your party. This party just like UMNO that too many old man in power and press down those capable, caliber young members. How u feel about this? People that stab on yr back is not your opponent/enemy out side the party but instead is your own comrade that rub your shoulder. Welcome to the real political world.

I believe we all should take heed to Andyksyong words and advice here.

I did put another comment in andy blog. he is a good leader.

One thing about leader is everyone want to be one but not everyone can be simply because it is susah, very susah. Especially now in Gerakan or MCA or any political party where the number is so big.

I was once a co-leader in just over a hundred members organisation. Not easy. U sacrifice so much, work ur heart and soul out yet u still cannot please everyone. At the end i was slice by my mentor and co-leader because he see me as a threat to his ‘throne’. Funny is when i was first slice, i don’t even know it! But one thing i learn from my experience is sacrifice, i could lead a majority of people out but i choose to leave alone and took the lead to make peace with my mentor and leave all my followers in the organisation because to me oneness is paramout. There nothing to gain in that organisation but to give and to serve or in other word to sacrifice. Only God know how much i sacrifice for that organisation!Until now, I still support that organisation from outside! one thing sadden me the most is the thing I build up so far in that organisation and is destine to grow but now all torn apart. The people i help to build and train all despirited. Some came to me but i ask them to hold their peace. I told them is the organisation i try to build and not me. I will not cause a division, no! over my dead body! I hope political leaders can think of the their party first above themselves. leaders come and go but the organisation remains. That’s normal! Political parties are not business. Business, u can own it and past down to ur decendents. But not NGO or political party. Tun Musa Hitam once said u should know when u should leave and pass on the baton. If all leaders are like him! One thing good about Tun Abdullah is that he left when he see others want him to go. Tun Mahathir, people said he is a dictator, maybe, but he stood down at the right time. I wrote this for some to consider but sincerely i tend to agree with Small man which is also my point. Let this present leaders stay on especially KTK for there is no one in Gerakan that can took over from him now. I don’t know about LSP. he should decide himself. Anyway he should address this issue of dissatifaction fast before it got out of hand. MY SINCERE CONCERN. Thanks for reading anyway.

wise guy,

u just comment on andy blog yesterday quote “Andy, u want to lead? can u? how high u measure urself? and all the rest.” unquote. and now so fast u twist n turn it by say differently and oppersitely that he is a good leader? Flip flop until this extend? what is on your mind? U just show n prove yourself that you are a person with no integrity and no principle at all. You just talk big about yourself n your belove lame KTK on what bla bla sacrifice that just to make yourself look good and cover/protect KTK lame/weak site which let reader believe is shoe polish and damage control. U r in serious state of denial that until this moment u still either refuse to accept the truth n facts or u have your agenda or job to do here as KTK/LKY agent.

I copy one reader response to your comment from andy blog to share with reader here as his comments is very similar to what i hv commenting but his command of english is good n the way he use and express is relax n humor and yet straight to the point.

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Outside Looking In (22:42:23) :

Wisely,

I believe DAP is doing a far better job than Gerakan is running Penang. But you are in denial if you think that Gerakan is OKAY. Comparing Gerakan to MCA is a no brainer, Gerakan is in a much worst shape than MCA. Who else does Gerakan has as an alternative leader if Pussy Koh steps down? I doubt the party has any capable candidates that it can throw into the ring. At least in MCA, you have leaders fighting for the President’s position, in Gerakan, no one wants it. What a disgrace.

If Youth members are complaining about its leader and yet here you are defending them, it just shows that you are basically gropping in the dark. There is no point defending an incompetent leader, LSP or KTK. Get rid of them, not protect them.

If we put Koh beside Datuk Lim Chong Eu, this is called a one sided fight. Pussy Koh loses by a TKO. Datuk Lim brought development to Penang, Koh brought nothing to Penang other than raping its resources or allowing others to do so. It is a relief that DAP won Penang, putting a stop to KTK and his team’s incompetence. Koh’s incompetence is even evident in his new portfolio of KPI Minister, Najib has to put in an “assistant” to make sure he gets the job done right.

As long as Koh runs Gerakan, Gerakan will never make a comeback in Penang. Its a fact, and unless you are deaf or/and dumb, you will know that the ground swell in Penang will not accept Gerakan in the next election as long as the current President remains.

Live in denial, die by the stroke of a pen, in this case voters ticking for DAP.

agree with gerakan member…..let us have a poll on whether LSP should step down and call for fresh election.

U can also do a same poll for Koh Tsu Koon.

This is another typical disillusioned, discontented, Gerakan Youth leader who keeps shooting his mouth off. If Gerakan was still running Penang, the corruption allegations would not have surfaced at all…

http://hklpenang.blogspot.com/

Penang Gerakan Vice Youth Chief, Mr H’ng Koon Leng, another drama mama, who is out to capture the world’s attention.

This is the kind of “bad publicity” that Gerakan does not need. It would seem to the public that Mr H’ng is trying too hard to put DAP in bad light. However, the yard stick is the past, meaning what would have happened if Gerakan was still in power. Generally, the consensus is, nothing. The previous administration would have either been a party to the corruption or closed an eye to it.

Remember our Batu Lanchang, one way, one road, overhead bridge! The most expensive overhead bridge ever..

100% support a poll to show whether Lim Si Pin must resign for the failure of gerakan youth!

If this site does not want to do it, maybe we can have it outside this website. So many website that can do a poll.

dear all gerakan members,

I REALLY salute n respect one of your youth leader Andy yong for a fast and efficient work to come out the poll on his own blog that some members suggested.

There is 3 points as follow and members only can select one of them that they think most suitable to them n their party. Do spread around this poll and let as many members participate on the vote so that the results or statistic can reflect more accurately. This will help gerakan decide how and where to go from here if party leadership do concern and listen to its members especially grass root members that form the majority of the party, NOT from those minority CC and few senior leaders that looks very incompetent and lame to selfishly decide the fate and future of gerakan. Remember, gerakan is not belongs to them and not theirs own family business!! Is every leader and members business.

Gerakan poll at Andy yong blog. http://andyksyong.wordpress.com

1. there is a change of leadership, hence a fresh election

2. they get out of BN and become a third force

3. they form a special task force (not Sedar) to revive the party

Spread this poll around among your members and let as many members to vote as possible. No matter what is the outcome, senior leadership cannot ignore or tidak apa or dont border(sound familiar?) and must look into it seriously as it represent the majority members view.

The poll should just be limited to the question whether gerakan leaders needs to step down and call fresh election. Answer is either yes or no.

Big cat,

At least Andy got prompt action and delivered compare to those youth and coward national leader that only know to talk cock and nonsense without action and unable to perform and deliver. That makes a lot of difference.

As for Andy from which team and last mins withdraw from ISA protest, that one i dont know and dont care.

Why party gerakan people with incompetent, coward, wake, lame, not performing, cant deliver become your party leader or wing leader while those people with quality like ability, capability, perform and deliver just a 3rd level leader or ordinary members and not even from CC. Really funny. Is it due to nepotism, kulitfication(skin colour rather than qualification) in party gerakan? Perhaps only gerakan members can answer.

MCA although is kelam cabut now but at least they have so many capable leaders to fight for the party post while in gerakan, no one even want to fight for the post and let those weak/lame/incompetent leader become your party cheif and leader without any competition. This is not good or healthy for a political party. Franky speaking, gerakan cant even near or compare with MCA.

hahaha….......
Big Cat,
for your info, andy yong is lim si pin good friend. And they are the people who pull out last minute at the ISA protest organised by GMI.
Not suprise they also pull out the Poll within 24 hours after being scolded by Koh Tsu Koon.
Gerakan youth are hopeless. Is this the future leaders of gerakan?

big cat,

SORRY. i didnt know about the poll was remove !!! wtf !! TOTAL DISAPPPOINTMENT !!!!!

I knew it will happen when the party senior know about it and pressure down n kacau. For sure those senior leader dont want to let gerakan members see the results. This is just a party internal poll and not external that involve public n rakyat and gerakan leader dont even dare want to know the results or statistic. What i comments earlier becomes real.

Poor gerakan poll, not even see the day light for 24hrs and dead. Gerakan really no hope already. Gerakan is going no where and will not go anywhere like this, dont even talk about fight back or win back next coming GE, better tutup kedai lagi baik lah.

Big cat and gerakan members,

I SORRY AND APOLOGISE as i donno your gerakan youth flip flop so prompt also. I WITHDRAW what i have comments earlier about ANDY as now i just start and getting to know him n other gerakan youth leader after this incident(poll remove). I believe many members still dont know about this poll and it was being murdered(remove). They all also makes no different, they all the same. Earlier i thought gerakan still got good, brave, capable leader. I just drop my spec and praise him too early without really know his background and connection with your party senior family. My mistake.

I suggest that we just ignore that blog. Maybe that andy from gerakan youth just close down that blog.

Can the gerakan youth please organise a seminar to train gerakan youth on “How to be a mature leader” and “Think First Before Doing Something”.

Comments here (in own party website) shows that even own party members are tired and frustrated with the silly ideas of some gerakan youth leaders, including its chief lim si pin.
Very sad!!! Gerakan Youth is suppose to be future leaders and not future idiots!

gerakan members,

i gather some info, it might not be entire andy fault for remove the poll in less than 24hrs with such flip flop, there are some influences believes from top that purposely unjustly spread unwarranted messages and making andy no choice but to remove the poll in order to protect his own butt and political carrier. Perhaps he is just a victim as well when he with courage want to do good for the party but the evil power within gerakan try to stop it from happening. He was defeated. what a pity. Again, the good was defeated and the evil rule.

yes true, is easy for u to say that, but when u r in his shoe, what will u do? With his current position, situation and ability, it is very difficult to disobey when the power from top of your party presure down on you.

Nowaday very hard to find a good soul and courage politician, most politician in malaysia just wan to cari kangtau, personal interest or personal agenda only, do u agree??

just hope gerakan members in future when choose your leader, pls open your eye and see clearly the candidates personality. Only a good & courage leader can lead gerakan out of this crisis.

Dear readers,

I confirm there is a same person with different identities and also others are in the internet to smear my name.  I dont know it is wise for me to dance to their tune but I’ll do it the last time. The same people did praised and complimented me prior to this in my blog but now behaving destructively.

To justify my position from being defamed, all interested readers please go to relevant comments at those sites, my blog and analyse it. The poll was NEVER my idea but a request by several members/ interested parties. Hence I obliged them and now they spinned the story to inflame nonsense against me.

About the ISA issue (whom I suspect the same guys who did the same thing now), please go and check with all the top leaders in GMI and Suaram about my relationship with them.  I will chop my head off if they say I betrayed them. Anyway I doubt you guys know what is what. So no lies please.

Stop accusing falsely and confront me as a gentleman. YOU CAN KILL ME PHYSICALLY BUT NOT MY BELIEF AND STRUGGLES.

TQ.

Dear Xiao Ah Mao and Andy,

I almost throw in the towel in helping and defending Gerakan here like in my last organisation when the poll was put up in andy’s blog. I am glad to know that there may be some imposters. I was trully dishearted when i see Gerakan members attacking their own leaders in our own website. I can defend our party against opposers but i am left helpless against our own members. Should i join in the attack, will it help? we have MCA as our example, good for MCA? XAM has a very good analysis of the three pools questions, all benefiting DAP/PR! I am glad Andy remove it and he appreciated XAM sharing!

To me now, Gerakan is at its lowest level. When i heard KTK sppech in the TV, i am glad to know he is still fighting on but when i heard of Najib speech, i was so uplifted. But so sad no one talk of these two speeches especially Najib’s -the good things from the AGM but all i hear and read about here is only 2 ‘terrible’ words that LSP utter!

Sincerely when penangite quote me uttering those words at andy, if u want to know the reason i utter those word is no one, not even andy can lead gerakan out of the present situation, if KTK ( to me and i believe many others gerakan top leaders, leaders and members who didn’t wrote negative comments here about our own party leaders and who really concern about Gerakan) is still the the best person to lead, even so many who comment here believe he has been and still been rejected by penang voters but i reserve my sceptic about it.

Xiao Ah Mao,

Ur little mention of me in ur last posting bring a HUGH encouragement to me. Ur have proven to be a greater asset to the party with ur valuable analysis, thought and ideas! glad to know i have a partner here, a co-runner and a co-fighter!

Andy,

The guy who called himself Penangite is a parasit, i regret introducing him to ur blog. Now he will cause all sort of trouble to u! thousand apology!!!

Dear Wisely & Andyyong,

Thanks, for both of you very much for your kind response!

As an ordinary loyal member of Gerakan, it’s my honourable duty & pride, within my ability & capacity, to make little contributions towards the party, in one way or another, for the betterment & progress of the party.

What I ‘ve done here so far, is actually nothing worthy of mentioning, & can’t be considered as “greater-asset” to the party at all. Anyway, thanks for your kind concern!

After 308 fiasco, the general morale of members & supporters of Gerakan had indeed dropped to its lowest ebb.What is of paramount importance to them at the moment is to instill them with words of compassion, motivation, encouragement & moral supports etc to regain their confidence.

The problem is, even our own website here, many commentators are using smear tactics against party & its leaders, tarnish the image of the party, when posting their comments here.  These unscrupulous & devastating comments, undoubtedly will have great adverse effects on the morale of our members & supporters, the running & progress of the party as well!

I too, feel very fortunate & glad to have you as co-runner & co-fighter, to defend, safe-guard (& counteract) the digity & reputation & good image of party Gerakan! I fervently hope that, more & more leaders , members & supporters, coming to join us as well !

Penangites,

we are reluctant to ever see gerakan rule penang anymore. no need.

Is the poll actually sanction by gerakan youth? Or just some personal publicity stunt?

TBS,

yes, agree. what a flip flop.

with gerakan under KTK and LSP leadership, we will see all kind flip flop. Some more totally unexpected one.
Enjoy the show !!

Wise guy n ah cat,

another comments for u both, proven what i commented so far is correct.

Kingto (23:51:59) :

Had dinner wth Inter-religion NGos just now,most of them actually like Gerakan if not because of Umno and coward leaders. Good response in the poll but no majority views.

sorry, not damaging to everyone…........Pakatan rakyat will be laughing…..hehehehe

Gerakan poll closed on 4pm, 2 hours ahead of the actual time. Any particular reason? Big boss angry oredi?  Result as below.

Gerakan can only excel if: (Poll Closed)

there is a change of leadership, hence a fresh election 45% (158 votes)

they get out of BN and become a third force 14% (48 votes)

they form a special task force (not Sedar or cronies) to revive the party 42% (147 votes)

Total Votes: 353

In my opinion, readers from all walks of life & different ideological background are welcome over here, to air their views, for healthy, cordial & ethical sharing; discussion or debating on interesting, current or political issues, but when comes to party’s internal affairs, particularly, important & sensitive strategical matters & decisions, such as, change of leadership; urgent policy-making etc., should be strictly left & confined to only party leaders & members.

As regards to the poll, some of the participants are pro-PR, stalwart-supporters & hard-core members of DAP! Can we place our reliance on them ? Definitely not! Therefore, I conclude that the results of the poll, does not reflect truly the wishes of the party members!

Penangites,

Both domestic & foreign tourists have always been impressed by penangites’ cordialities; civilities; generosities; helpfulness & well-groomed manners. Comparatively, I feel quite disappointed & disgraceful as you choose “penangites” as your paeudonym over here, simply because, as I see, you are still far below par, that is, still not up to expectations as entailed by truly penangites!

Demoralising; unethical & indecent words or expressions should be avoided as far as possible.  It is to my knowledge that, if a school teacher utters words, such as, “stupid”, “idiot”, “moron”, “bodoh”, bangsat”, “paria”, “nia Ma” etc. to pupils or students, then, he/she can be considered as NOT fit or qualified to be a teacher! He/she can pack & go! So is a gentleman!

One must always learn how to agree to diaagree without losing one’s patience & temper, particularly even though one is arguing with somebody vehemently. I think, it’s high time that we should inculcate high ethical values & moralities into all readers over here.

One Chinese proverb goes, “When the tree falls, the monkeys scatter”! or “Get rid of the head first, before smashing his gang”!which means when a leader loses power, his followers (members) become disorganised! This proverb has clearly given me perception as regards to WHY hard-core oponents have always resorted to undermining; humiliating & ridiculing leaders of party Gerakan.

ah cat ah,

We discuss politic here especially your party and your leader on yr party blog, dont divert reader or people attention here by making they are reading visit malaysia webpage comments. What i comments is facts and truth and actual happening. Read my comments deeply and think about it before u sleep… Dont try to be teacher over here as it wont change the facts.  If u cant accept also, pls dont use your dirty tactic to tarnish, personal attack and insult commentor AGAIN…is not the first time n wont be the last.

Dear readers,

I wish to put below comments on MCA official web http://www.mca.org.my but i cant find where or how to post comment on their website. Anybody can help?

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ASK YOURSELVES, DO WE STILL NEED THE MCA?

Why MCA, after 51 years of independence your own race, is treated like second-class citizen?

Why MCA, after more than 50 years of supporting the Alliance/BN, your own race appears to have to beg to get a   scholarship?

Why MCA, after more than half a century being part of the ruling government, many of your own race do not see they have a future in Malaysia ?

Why MCA, despite being a partner in the BN, when a man said, ‘bath the keris in Chinese blood’ MCA still wants to support that man?

Why MCA, after so many years of being treated like irrelevant, MCA still cannot make the move to prove to your own race that MCA is ‘alive and kicking’ and still relevant?

Why MCA, despite your ancestors having been in this country hundreds of years earlier than others, your own race are called ‘Squatters’ ?

Why MCA, despite knowing that the NEP is obsolete and had benefited only a few, MCA does not have the bravery to stand up and say,  ‘If the NEP is not dismantled, MCA will quit’ ?

Why MCA, you cannot work with people of your own race for the benefit of every race in the country, but choose to work with a party which is using race to create fear among your own race ?

Why MCA, even after 51 years of independence you can be so blind, to the extent of not being able to see where your own race is heading to ?

Why MCA, you are still so obsessed to keep the status quo within the government, despite having very few of your own race in the army, police, petronas, GLC, TNB, govt dept, etc etc etc ???
Why MCA, for how much longer are you going to hang around a government which dares to do whatever it wants, whenever it wants and whichever way it wants with or without you around ???

Why MCA, are you going to wait until your own race becomes 5% of the total population, before you can get your act together?

Why MCA, when the writing is so clear on the wall, you are still not able to sing the song   ‘Why_MCA’ ?

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