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Selamat Menyambut Hari Kemerdekaan

31 Aug 2009, 12:15 AM
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Selamat Menyambut Hari Kemerdekaan

Jawatankuasa Perhubungan Negeri Parti Gerakan Rakyat Malaysia Negeri Pulau Pinang dengan ikhlasnya ingin mengucapkan Salam Merdeka kepada semua rakyat Malaysia.

Semoga kita dapat teruskan semangat muhhibah yang disemaikan dan berganding bahu untuk menyahut cabaran di depan kita.

by Parti Gerakan Pulau Pinang

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1 robertchai 31 Aug 2009, 10:14 PM

Apakah makna merdeka bagi saya? 
Negara kita terus menikmati kemamkmuran ekonomi,
keharmonian antara kaum, kesejahteraan hidup dan
kestabilan politik.  Adakah kita perlu ahli politik
sentiasa mengungkitkan sentimen politik perkauman?
tentu tidak sekali.  Justeru itu marilah kita bersama-sama menghayati semangat 1Malaysia dengan
semua kaum bersatu padu dan bekerjasama antara satu sama lain.  Happy Birthday Malaysia

2 penangites 1 Sep 2009, 4:25 PM

没有普天同庆的冲动

经历了脱离52年殖民地的统治,
马来西亚迎来第52周年的国庆日,
今年的国庆也是第六任首相的第一个国庆,
感觉上今年的国庆气氛大不如往年,
普天同庆的感觉消失了。

今年的国庆日,
我没张挂“辉煌条文”,
那种想升旗欢庆的情感没有了,
这是我近来来第一次没有在住宅和商店前张挂国旗,
主因是和感触到国家的政治逐渐黑暗有关。

马来西亚自治了52周年,
不公正、不透明的政策依旧说不完,
某些人士依旧无法走出种族极端的框框,
某些人士依旧对各宗教缺乏敏感度,
血淋淋的牛头竟然也带上街头作为抗议的道具。

霹雳政治变天更是令我失望,
某些人士用尽一切手段来达成政治利益,
竟然也是违背民主体制的政治青蛙,
赵明福不幸坠楼案更是让人感觉一片黑暗,
执政者滥用执法机构何时了?

‘1个马来西亚’的精神去了那里?
明显的‘1个马来西亚’ 只是一个政治口号,
就因已往民众让一党独大的后遗症,
导致了政府的施政出现偏差、腐败、滥权,
民众对政治的醒觉有助创造更美好的马来西亚。

3 Karen 2 Sep 2009, 1:44 AM

Penangites,

I dont write & speak Mandarin, so i had it under Google Tranlator as below.The gist is understandable.

The most important thing in Merdeka is to always remember the sufferings our forefathers went thru during the occupancy of the Dutch British & Japanese and do not link Merdeka to current political scenario. We got this country from the British its oe major leap already.

The next step, Merdeka was gained in 31/08/1957, its dutifully us the rakyat to shape the country. At 52years after Merdeka, we have not even created history, we have a VERY long way to go.

One cannot expect & force the Malays, Chinese & Indians to change mentality & views overnight. This process may take a few decades.

This country is multiracial multireligion, it is sensitive in whatever we do & say, we do not want to end up like 40years ago.

Below the translated of what you wrote :-
“There is no impulse to celebrate the

Experienced from the 52-year colonial rule,
Malaysia celebrates its 52 anniversary of National Day,
This year’s National Day is also the sixth prime minister’s first National Day,
Feel the atmosphere is far below this year’s National Day in previous years,
To celebrate the feeling disappeared.

This year’s National Day,
I’m not the display of “glorious provisions”,
Kind of like the emotional flag-raising celebration gone,
This is my first time recently is not in the residential and store front display of the national flag,
Mainly due to the country’s politics and the thoughts and feelings related to the gradual darkness.

Malaysia’s self-government of the 52 anniversary of the
Injustice, the policy is still lots to talk about non-transparent,
Some people are still not out of the race extreme frame,
Some people of various religions still a lack of sensitivity,
Buffalo’s surprisingly bloody onto the streets as a protest prop.

Thunderbolt is a political change of weather I am disappointed,
Some people try every possible means to achieve political interests,
Turned out to be contrary to the democratic system and political frogs,
Zhao Mingfu Unfortunately, the case falls from a building it is feel-a dark,
When will those in power to abuse of the law enforcement agencies?

‘1 A Malaysian ‘the spirit of the go there?
Malaysia, a significant ‘1 ‘is just a political slogan,
People on the result of past experience so that one-party dominance of the after-effects,
Led to the government’s policy bias, corruption, abuse of power,
The public awareness of politics in Malaysia will help create a better”

4 penangites 2 Sep 2009, 2:03 AM

dear karen,

now i know why u unable to understand…cos u dont read n understand chinese…

u live in the world of orang putih where what u see, read and understand is english media that being control by BN ... although u r chinese but u dont know the chinese community feels and their problems…

i dont blame you, is not your fault, but i wish u able to understand n know more about the problem of chinese community or rakyat facing, try get to know more chinese frens that able to read, write n understand chinese. They will tell u something that u donno…hopefullly.

After u really and able to understand chinese one day, i believe u wont write this comments ...cos u will change what u think by then…

although we live in same country and same race, but we see things at different angle. I can proudly say my view and angle are wider as i am reading news and obtain infor from bahasa, english and chinese media where i hv more opinion.

5 卒子 2 Sep 2009, 8:13 AM

penangites,

I just want to laugh at you.
Looking at all the comments you posted, whether you read a lot from various source of news or not I am not too sure. But one thing for sure is you are ‘copy & paste’ king and does not really think like a Malaysian.

By reading English medium news means only reading news controlled by BN??? I think ‘penangites’ has a serious mentality problem. Penangites blames for the sake of blaming and all these while ‘penangites’ does not participate in any constructive discussion or interaction but just causing polarization.

I agree with what Karen said. I love my country and it has nothing to do with the political scenario .

Daulat Malaysia!

6 penangites 2 Sep 2009, 8:34 PM

卒子,

my advice to u is just laugh as much as u can while u still in gerakan as Gerakan day is number…

at the end, no one will pity you since gerakan choose their own course with the devil and ended their own journey…

7 Karen 3 Sep 2009, 3:33 AM

Penangites

We are educated in our ways, some are trilingual, some are bilingual and some are unilingual.
You are just lucky to have at least 3languages
to carry yourself.

I understand what you wrote, i share the same view BUT i must also consider what went wrong since
“Old Horse”, dont think the Chinese are right and Malay is wrong,we must look at the whole picture.
Who became leader who accommodate to the leader?
All play the part here.

I fully understand how you feel.
I m a Penangite.
I m born Penang.
I m a Malaysian.
I do mix with Chinese & other races.
I m NOT controlled by BN.

Merdeka Day is a step we were freed from the British.

Dont mix up Merdeka with current political scenario.

Maybe you dont feel anything unlike some in Malaysia.
Some Malays had their forefathers commuting to land of Java/Sumatera to figh bow & arrows (some died)with the Dutch. Thus, the word MERDEKA means so much to them although after four generations.PLEASE do not be-little MERDEKA.

Did you forefathers fought against ? British or Dutch?

What happened after 31Aug1957, is for us to constantly shape Malaysia, History just began my dear.

You cannot expect Malaysia to be like USA, when did USA had its independence? They too took hundreds
of years to come to arrive today and still need
to improve.

Look at Obama yesterday, the adminstration for the first time suddenly change into celebrating
Ramadhan with the Muslims of America. Why?

Please dont be so sad,Penangite!
Chinese think they are unhappy
Malays think also the same,
so is Indians and Bumiputras….

May i remind you this is a multiracial country,
multireligion country, you cannot get what you want in one day.

This country needs to be tactfully handled.
I hope you understand what “tactfully” meant.

8 Karen 3 Sep 2009, 3:42 AM

Penangites

No matter how bad Malaysia is, I love Malaysia,
my country. I m proud, we were out from the grasp of
the British past 52 years.MERDEKA! MERDEKA! MERDEKA!

I m here to shape it although i m a mere “rakyat” with others who want to make Malaysia a better place.
It may take 5years, 10years, 15years, 20years…

We, “rakyat” must keep on with the struggle.

Please read history of other countries, we are like others too, time will tell.

9 Karen 3 Sep 2009, 3:48 AM

I m so sorry readers, i must say here that
why temples easily mushrommed under trees,
near drains, in estates,...havent they guidelines
to abide to local govt?

Why so easily mushrooming of temples, then it gives problem 30-40years later.

I saw many in Penang like that until today.
Why no disiplion? If this recur in 2009, future development may be a problem to the temple lets say 20-30years doen the road. Recur, recur, recur…
when can solved?

Please someone please explain to me the aspects of the religion in erecting temples. Thank you.

10 Karen 3 Sep 2009, 4:36 AM

Penangites

I believe, the 50protestors do not represent the Malaysian Muslims at all. It angered the Hindus.

Last month, Jeff Ooi MP of Jelutong made a statement that angered the Muslims until today. To retract statement & to seek apologies are two different thing all together. Then, you had groups demanded Jeff Ooi to resign.

Always remember, this is a multiracial-multireligion
country.

“To be Bitten & to bite” will happen more
escpecially with this current political scenario.

Its how the affected group chosed to react either
with extreme anger or rational and how detrimental
or benefit was that choice.

Today, majority Malaysians are far-cry from understanding & respecting other religions.
Why?

11 penangites 3 Sep 2009, 11:42 AM

Dear karen,

I glad u r a chinese that able to understand the problem and challenges facing by chinese community after read your further comments, if what you say is true.

In fact, we both share the common things like we born and grew up in this lovely island/state, we mix with chinese and also other races and most importantly NOT control by BN.

I apologize if my previous comments did offense you.

Dont be like certain idiot and coward hardcore gerakan leader and their supporter that betray their own race and rakyat interest for their personal interest.

What they get from their master UMNO like $$$, government post, kangtau project, status…etc just temporary in this life time but what they sell out to UMNO is forever, including their own generation to comes. This is totally unacceptable and unforgivable.

Those are the rotten and corrupted politician parasite under the racist and corrupted party. I hope u wont be cheated by those politician with their nice wording n phases that they do best. Look into their heart n not their outer, evil never win.

12 wisely 4 Sep 2009, 4:03 PM

Here’s a fact for u to consider, penangite

A relative of a top leader of DAP in Perak told my relative that her so-called top DAP leader was offered some shares free in a going to be open high class restaurant by allowing his name to be used by the restaurant.

Maybe u can come and join the opening ceremony and report to us what u see!

13 penangites 4 Sep 2009, 4:33 PM

wise guy,

if i was invited, for sure i will attend. hhahaah

U only know to bring up those rumor things to protect your party and defame DAP or pakatan to divert the attention of the issue here, perhaps this is what u do best or gerakan send u as their proxy for damage control…

anyway, keep up the good work. I also want to know DAP and pakatan shit things if u do hv solid proof n evident instead of always comments on heard say n rumor things…

Dont tell me Gerakan leader dont do that, hahhaa.
Is the matter of people care or dont care only.

Pls dont abuse n misused the word [fact] if wat u say is heard say or told by yr so call relative.

If u dare, disclose the name and contact of yr so call “relative” and top DAP leader so that penangites and rakyat can make confirmation of what you comment is true.

Grew up wiseguy..

14 wisely 5 Sep 2009, 12:49 PM

U just need to pay RM50 to attend that function. Not free la! This one is also cari makan ma. I will ask my relative to help to purchase the ticket coupon for u( if u are serious in attending). I believe since u ‘serve’ them so well in this blog, i believe they don’t mind. Get a ticket down. I can even arrange ur accomodation in the nearby town. I know there are a lot of newly open budget hotel offer at a very reasonable price. U know N and N area right. I bring u around to see all the chinese schools that Tun helped to build and what DAP have done - nothing!

I can even bring u to meet all my friend and relatives to tell u all these wonderful stories, whom i believe, also voted for DAP and u can hear for them urself personally. Personally, i also like to met u.  If u have extra days, i can arrange for u to go to Pangkor and i can be ur personal tour guild. Bring ur family along then. We can sit down and chat over all our differences and i can reveal more ‘secrets’ to u which i better not write here. Then, u can made ur own conclusion, my only request is, write a fair report for all penangites to read here in this blog about what u see and hear from the visit!

I can also show to u the development that BN brought to this district, the sites which was stop temperarily during PR rule and now being being resume. Come, come and see it urself! it is also Zambry and Nizar areas! All four in one disctrict!

15 penangites 5 Sep 2009, 1:31 PM

sound very interesting and kind of fun…

anybody interested can register with wise guy, he is our man for this special arrangement!! we wont always getting this special treatment. The more the merrier.

P/S : as for pangkor tour, there is no need personal tour guide since we can finish the whole island less than 2-3 hours time. nothing much to see there, just for relax n buy some local products.

16 wisely 5 Sep 2009, 1:36 PM

Dear readers,

I want to clarify certain things here so that i will not be sued for what i have just said. All my claims are what i heard. I believe if things get nasty, i am not sure whether they are willing to steps out to adknowledge their statements.

As i said this is a discussion and i hope it stay that way. I am not denying what i have just say but my point is that let it be just limit to topic of discussion. I am nobody and i have nothing against anyone personally. But people just telling me things and i did ask around for the reliability of the info and what i say here is to my best knowledge.

I am not saying anyone here is doing anything wrong in the eye of law because from my limited knowledge of law, i believe there’s nothing wrong in doing that in the eye of law but just that it may not be so good. I believe in the entertainment world there’s also such things!

So, i hope i will not get into any trouble here. I just try to substantite my claim a little more as was asked by ‘penangite’ by revealing more of what i actually heard! Anyway i didn’t reveal any name here.

17 wisely 5 Sep 2009, 1:51 PM

The invitation is just to u, penangite! What i am trying to say is that i didn’t make up any story. I did my best to check the reliability of the info according to my limited ability. Its up to individual to believe but anyway, i am serious with this invitation just to prove my points.

If i am be assured of not being sued, i can disclose more info here. That’s why is better we talk personally and of the record. Then u can do some research yourself into the truth of everything.

18 penangites 5 Sep 2009, 2:16 PM

refering your comments below,
“U know N and N area right. I bring u around to see all the chinese schools that Tun helped to build and what DAP have done - nothing!”

Pls dont mislead others n rakyat. BN n their component party becomes gavernment(state to federal) since independent and was over half a century, it is government duty and responsibility to build and develope basic infra, school, hospital, houses and so on for the rakyat since BN manage and control our country resources and power(authority). DAP n others opposition party can only suggest and perform check and balance duty since they not government n not in power. Dont take your duty n responsibility becomes bonus for rakyat, u can use this way to cheat those rural area rakyat that not well educated that your master UMNO do best. Shame on u as a chinese for continue to follow n do the shit things yr master do.

For the schools that builded, dont all sapu under BN credit, many of the school build are comes from chinese community themselves that unselfishly make many many donation n contribution in terms of money and also voleentury effort. Pls give me a statistic how many chinese primary & secondary school hv been build by BN since after independent? The result is more closure than build.

Go ask around wether BN/MCA & Gerakan whether is doing a good work for rakyat education especially chinese community. I think u know what is the outcome.
No hard feeling, i just want to clarify things that will mislead rakyat in general.

As i understand, during PR ruling in perak less than a year, PR release many land title to the chinese kampung rakyat that was not done by BN during their ruling for so long. Many still in the process but unfortunately all hv been stop after the silly take over by BN. Your master is behind this due they not happy the PR government doing this for rakyat, cos for them, the land is theirs and we(not malay, not bumi) dont deserve to own it cos we are pendatang. U still proudly(shameless) say BN/zambry doing a good work for perak rakyat? U must be joking or hv serious mental problem…

19 wisely 6 Sep 2009, 4:59 PM

Tun raise those money himself, maybe with some from the gov but as we all know BN gov give very few last time for building vernicular school.

Gerakan supported the land title move in Perak for ur knowledge.

20 wisely 6 Sep 2009, 5:03 PM

The promise of 1000 acres of land from PR to chinese independent school was actually a gazzete hutan simpanan land in selama. I was told by one gerakan member that even the so called corrupted UMNO dare not even dare to touch gazetted hutan simpanan!

21 wisely 6 Sep 2009, 5:17 PM

Can u tell me how many school DAP has built or help to build in Penang?

What other projects that DAP penang has successfully carried out in Penang that we all proud of?

22 penangites 7 Sep 2009, 1:00 AM

wise guy,

U also say Tun raise money himself, not your party or BN government, so dont take cheap credit for it.

U only mention Tun, why u didnt mention the chinese rakyat out there that unselfish donate land, money and also their voleentary work and effort for chinese vernicular school. Have u ever think of Why chinese community need to be so hard to donate money and effort for their future generation education? It is bcos gerakan/MCA under BN government didnt fight n help for chinese vernicular school even being a government in power for so long, so rakyat have no choice but to help themself.

Gerakan support land title move by PR? I think u not sleeping for very long time. During the PR rule in perak b4 the silly take over by BN, Gerakan NEVER ever come out any statement say support this move, dont try to protect your lame party over here with this silly comments. The fact is gerakan support UMNO for the silly take over of PR government that rakyat perak had given the mandate during last General Election via democracy way.

Even your so call Master UMNO also not dare to do, but PR governement dare to do it and delivered for the benefit of rakyat, this time chinese vernicular school. This is totally unimaginable during your master rule in perak. PR delivered n prove it. U try to compare your racist n corrupted master this way? I also feel strange, perhaps u already out of focus, fact and point to protect your party n your master.

Quote “Can u tell me how many school DAP has built or help to build in Penang?”

This is the most silly idiot and naive stupid question i ever see from this blog so far and surprisingly come from you…

U should say how many school hv Gerakan has built or help to build in penang during Penang under Gerakan administrative for 30 years. My advice better dont ask the rakyat, else sure kena fire.

Penang under DAP administrative, even just under a year, hv manage to save some budget and provide at least RM 1 million to help the private school in penang systematically, which means on yearly basis provided state got sufficient fund, not like BN every 5 years during election. State government under DAP administrative also reserve few land for chinese, tamil and religion school and openly ask central(federal) government education ministry to build school, and i sure you know what your master in BN response.

From what i see your recent comments over here, u r losing your concentration and focus on the issue time to time and make wild and non fact claim and accusing DAP or PR on different issue to divert people/reader attention here. Somehow, yoursef realise or someone with legal background or knowlegde advice u, then only make stupid clarification to clean your shit due worry kena sue, hahaha, perhaps u kena hamtam by your boss for doing lousy damage control job by defame your opponent over here. Wiseguy not as wise as we think after all. Go hv some sleep, u need it.

lastly, i thank you for your silly n naive comments recently so that penangites have chance and opportunity to clarify what u claim and make rakyat know on the truth and your lame party and leader. Thanks again!!

23 wisely 7 Sep 2009, 11:57 AM

I personally heard Dato CKY support for the land move in Perak Gerakan annual meeting last year in Ipoh on the land as well as the 1000 acres land for the independent school. I knew there’s a report in chinese paper of the occasion but i don’t know whether ithese was reported or not. Anyway BN state government, to my best knowledge still honour this move - the 1000 acre for the chinese independent school. I also know during Tun’s time, the both independent school here receive annual grant from Tun. One, i believe RN10,000 annually-this is to my best knowledge.

I personally don’t take other’s credit and i don’t make wild allegation. All my writing is to my best knowledge and i do take effort to check to the extend that i can for what i say.

I cannot give names and detail over the internet of some questionable moves by the DAP leaders here. U come, take up the challenge to come and i will disclose to u what i know and bring u to meet my sources. All of them are or were DAP supporters! That’s why N and N could only manage no 4 and 8 in DAP state election though they are the two top leaders here. A hardcore DAP supporter told me it was because they could not fulfill many of their promises during 308 to them.

As for ur knowledge, i took a drive to the ‘restaurant’ and i think it is opened now.

As to Tun contribution, its funny u said is his own work. Obviously he represents the party and the donation was a party affair. Obviously all credit goes to him and the party and definately not me! All of us in A.T. knew that D**** N*** dare not go up against him when he stood for the MP here because he knew he don’t stand for a chance to win for what he done for the chinese here expecially the chinese schools here. For ur knowledge all schools have Tun name on the wall.

Finally, UMNO is not my master. Is Anwar ur master? My master is my conscience, not even Gerakan! In this way, i can be on guard.

How about ur claim to Gerakan corrupt practise, i surely like to know. U can write in general but with solid points. If Gerakan is really so corrupt, i will even condemn it myself and they should repent and learn the lesson! Sincerely, i didn’t know of any. That’s why i would like to know. Enlighten me.

24 Wisely 7 Sep 2009, 12:19 PM

As to the chinese school, we all know it is not fair to us, but for the past 52 years it was MCA and Gerakan plus Chinese NGO and chinese citizen as a whole, who put in the effort to sustain to what it is now. I admit this is not good enough but do u know lee Kuan Yew, a chinese chose to close down chinese schools in Singapore though they are the majority and to my best knowledge, we are the only country in the world that have three different streams of education. It is an achivement in itself. Futhermore it is protected under our constitution which i believe the credit should go to MCA during Merdeka time.

All these while it was MCA and Gerakan on political side, now DAP want to be the champion, i welcome it but DAP must prove it! If DAP can make it a better policy, then i salute it. U are in penang, the only chinese majority state but can it work for a whole country? Will PAS and PKR and the bumi citizen ok it?
U take definately take all the credit or DAP, but after it happens! As for now, let MCA and Gerakan take a little credit for their 52 years labour!

U know, the DAP ADUN here donate how much under his personally name or DAP name almost everytime for the chinese school rebuilding fund here. I guarantee u, even u or i can donate more if we want to!

25 wisely 7 Sep 2009, 2:48 PM

As I mention this is a discussion and not about suing. But if u are so brave that u are not afraid of being sued, u are most welcome to make all the allegation u have on the corruption by Penang Gerakan in Penang as to substantiate ur claim!

U mention RM 1 million for all the independent schools in Penang? How many schools are u talking here? From what i know the last school Tun help to build here, Gerakan donated RM1.2 million and that’s only for one school!  For the record, about ten or so schools with each time over RM100,000 was donated for rebuilding fund. Most of the time is if the school board can collect RM1 and he will also give RM1 - one to one. And everytime,when i heard the amount by DAP or the representative, i just laugh inside. I am not trying to belittle anyone here but i believe, DAP can and should do better than that. Three or four digit number just doesn’t make any sense for building a school. hardly any five digit number, lately maybe but i never heard of any 6 digit figure.

Many of what i say here, many others also know, the small town that i live, people used to say, if ur hen lay 2 eggs a day, 1/2 of the town will know. There is no big secret in this town, that’s what i mean.

Actually, if LGE influential is so great, he should be able to get more donation from businessmen and supporters or general public if the state does not have enough. I believe that’s how MCA and Gerakan did it all this while. But i will conclude what Penang is today, whether good or bad, most of it is Gerakan effort. It is the first develop state in this country and i believe today, only selangor held the same status. I strongly believe whether MCA or Gerakan or DAP, all want to do the best for the chinese and Malaysia in general-just who can do a better job!

I personally have nothing against DAP, i can support any good effort by them here or in Penang, who won’t?

Bottom line is, a strong opposition will provide a good check and balance even to PR run Penang. From 308, i believe penangites want to give DAP a chance to run the state and i believe if DAP can do a good job, then people of penang will continue to support them but i believe not without check and balance from Gerakan or BN but if they can only say but cannot do, then the penangites will vote them out. Is time to perform and not just empty promise! Is time to deliver and not just complain. Penangites vote u in to solve their problem and not just to condem Gerakan. If DAP also cannot do better, then why DAP?
I heard of an interesting idea, taxi ferry but just once, workable?

Anyway, LGE claims against Mohd Nor revelation will be the highlight next week. See whether LGE still tell partial truth and play blame game or is he telling the whole truth!

26 wisely 8 Sep 2009, 9:41 PM

In today star report, LKS finally admit to all the point i mention before. I quote what the star paper, Lim said that Islamic state issue was the biggest point of contention especially between DAP and PAS. “It is IMPOSSIBLE for PAS to give up its plan to achieve an Islamic State,” he said. “But DAP WILL NOT AGREE TO IT.” Lim ASSURED that Malaysia, a multiracial and multireligiuos nation WOULD NOT turned into an islamic state AS LONG AS DAP REMAIN IN PAKATAN. However he COULD NOT PREDICT IF PAKATAN WILL REMAIN UNITED FOREVER.

This is what i was and am saying all this while. LKS is bold enough to admit this point. I salute him for his frankness. I believe this will clear all the doubt about DAP stand in relation to PAS in islamic state issue but will he abide by this word, let’s just wait and see. I believe this is DAP promise to all its supporters and Malaysians especially the non-muslims about this issue.

This also prove that all my analysis about islamic state all this while is correct. Yahoo! I am right!

So, can DAP and PAS really work together to govern this country? I believe by now, in everyone heart, u and i already have a confirm answer!

In other word, even PR will to win the next general election, can they survive? They are doom to destruction! As long as this issue begin to surface, that’s the end for PR, right?

For u who want to read about islamic state, just type islamic state and read the wikipedia and see for ur self what a typical islamic state is. See the freedom of religion practise in Saudi Arabia - the most typical Islamic state.

penangites, Malaysians, u must think of ur future generations in Malaysia. Already too much islamic value ‘force’ into our life today but u want it to get even more worse? Maybe first 1 or 2 years, the honeymoon years, PAS allow us some ‘liberty’ but 5, 10 , 20, 50, 100 years down the road, would u dare to imagine what ur grandchildren life would be like?

Yes, PAS is not corrupt, but which would u choose, which would u gamble on for the sake of ur future generation? I have this ‘revelation’ from God some time ago and i been writing since and now, i think i begin to see the ‘revelation’ is true. First when Nga Kor Ming recites Quran twice to get the Malay votes, Karpal anger toward Anwar and two Lims on this issue, Kedah pig issue, Selangor beer issue and now LKS own admittance. For me, I am fully convince now. How about u? I recall reading the wikipedia that in Saudi, no other religion can be practise in the kingdom and no other religious book is allowed into the country just like communist china!

Also reported in the newspaper, that Anwar’s promise to the Kg Buah Pala VCD now begin to surface. He promise the matter can be settle in two weeks but the land was sold by DAP led gov 3 weeks after 308! Any lawyer will tell u that LGE can reject the money because the time has lapsed for over 2 years and that’s the end. The residents can keep the land and there’s no issue whatsoever but what happen? Why did he accept the money? and ask for the extra 50%? Did he ever explain why?

The Kg Buah pala leader was saying if there’s nothing can be done to save the land, then Anwar should not give them false hope. It is very bad to play with one’s hope. I believe those of us who has some sort of this type of experience would agree with me 100%.

Anyway judge for urself, malaysia, of their words and actions. Are they the gov berjiwakan rakyat? and The only gov berjiwakan rakyat? Just think for a moment and decide for urself! Don’t let any sentiment blind us. We should think and decide rasionally, that what i feel we all should do!

Thank for reading.

27 Desmond 8 Sep 2009, 11:50 PM

@Wisely, actually, I beg to differ. DAP is probably more capable of working with PAS but are very wary of PKR. One of the main reasons why is very simple, the PKR leadership are the wantaways of UMNO, there is no guarantee that they will not return to their old ways.
There are other reasons why I say this which I will not put forward here. Do not believe all that you read in the newspapers…

Alternatively, what can BN and Gerakan offer? Should we then be blinded by the antics of UMNO as they stir up racial feelings every single time a sentiment does not favour them? To make matters worst, the componenet parties of BN choose to remain silent with fear or maybe with approval of how UMNO conducts itself. As a citizen, why should I submit to their archaic “divide and rule” methods? The leader of BN states his position, but no one else in the party adheres to his decision. 

In June, LKY made his maiden trip to visit the PAS leadership in Kelantan, any thoughts why this was done? Being a very strategic and forward thinking leader albeit an autocratic one (but very successful), it would be extremely unwise to think that LKY made a holiday trip to see the under developed state. There is definitely more to it than meets the eye.

However, if PR does win the next GE, the question is can they form a strong cabinet? Are there enough brains in their team, not discounting the fact that can they avoid an implosion from infighting for seats, to come up with a cabinet that is respectable. This is the ultimate question every voter would need to ask themself. I would give PR (if the coalition last that long) at least another 2 GEs before it can form a credible shadow cabinet.

With regards to Buah Pala, now we will never know who is right and wrong. Both Gerakan and DAP are blaming each other, the live debate would have been “the” stage that would have put an end to it but incredibly, it resolved itself. Were the residents in Buah Pala manipulated for political gains? Most probably yes.. Are they greedy? Maybe.. Do they have legal recourse? Probably no, being squatters..

Now, I do symphatise with their cause but once you start to go back on your words time after time, people are going to see your true colours. Today’s news claim that they now want RM300k instead of a house, the goalpost keeps changing. At the end of the day, if they end up without a single cent, it is their own doing. We should not put up with their antics.

28 Desmond 9 Sep 2009, 12:25 AM

To all here, is this what you support??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8eNcrgNleU&eurl=http://mt.m2day.org/2008/&feature=player_embedded#t=154

If the link does not work, please go to youtube and search for Kepala Lembu Berdarah: Kecoh di MBSA

If this is what you think is better for Malaysia, I better start consider to change my passport..

29 wisely 9 Sep 2009, 9:57 PM

Desmond,

I enjoy reading ur comment. I think i know what u refer to. There may be some hidden story in Penang between PKR and DAP, am i right? I think the suing of each other in Sarawak even before the state election prove ur point. All these while, i thought that maybe most citizens main concerned is the cooperation between PAS and DAP but now DAP and PKR also?

My claim do have its base: since barisan alternative in 1999 until the recent selangor beer issue, i think this is the third time DAP try to work with PAS. But do u think it will work. I believe it is Anwar who hold them together, without Anwar around?

I believe for the issue in Sarawak, firefighter Anwar will have to fly there to solve the issue before it gets out of hand, do u agree? Let’s wait and see.

I agree with u that it may take 2 or more GE for PR to be able to ‘mature’ and form a strong shadow cabinet if PR still exit as a coaliton by then.
I start to agree with LKS that this 308 tsunami may be a one time wonder. Is PR really starting to show crack in the coalition now? To me, there are too many issues PR have to solve. The main problem being different vision and goal of these three parties. Will PR survive to the next GE?

Dont u think, there should be one common vision and goal and one leadership like BN. BN is right in this matter but just UMNO overstep its boundary. The one goal, one vision and one leadership is right but just UMNO has gone over and that’s wrong. That’s the weakness of BN and that’s the area of attack by PR. The method is right but not the player! PR, the players are right but not the method. U all agree with this analysis?

I definate agree with u that they don’t have the quality people to rule the nation. Also is PR going to change the entire police force and MACC personnel if they come into power? Or else these two will be their problem then, right. can the police and MACC work with PR gov having giving Anwar a black eye and TBH issue? How about the rest of the civil service, which suppose to be neutral but i don’t think anyone will believe it is neutral. I believe majority of the state departments doesn’t ‘work’ with the states that run by PR, am i right? Definately this is not right but this is the reality today. So, there a tremenduos great pressure on these MB and EXCOs especially in Selangor, i believe. It is not easy to ‘turn’ over a boat which has been run by the same party for 52 years. Penang easy? U tell me, i like to know.

A small correction to my last entry. to read about islamic state u should type Saudi Arabia instead. Just look how an ideal islamic state is run. Again, i am not saying it is right or wrong but just that, that’s the typical islamic state we can expect our country turning into though i believe it will not totally be the same.

Kepala lembu issue, Did Nik Aziz and Anwar condemn it, having both their party member involve beside UMNO’s. I don’t know, if they did, i salute them. But now they are charged. There should be understanding and concensus and mutual understanding if we really want to solve this issue. I believe if racial and religious issues can be solved. Then, Malaysians can all sleep in peace!

30 Jamie Khoo 11 Sep 2009, 5:38 AM

I think this website is more of personal conversation between wisely and penangites, and they should be the same person merely talking to each other which are created by the same editor of this website

31 penangites 1 Oct 2009, 11:38 PM

jamie,

what a genius detective mind you have….

let see what i(wisely) will hv a say about this…

32 wisely 3 Oct 2009, 8:39 AM

wisely is not penangites and penangites is not wisely!
wisely is perakian!

33 penangites 3 Oct 2009, 1:11 PM

genius jamie,

here is your answer…dont make yourself like an idiot here…let make political comments here n not detective work.

34 penangites 9 Oct 2009, 3:01 PM

http://www.malaysiakini.com/letters/114528

I refer to Malaysiakini report Non-Malay voters the decider in Bagan Pinang.

All along, we have been given the impression that PAS is Islamic extremist party. Here are some good reasons why I, as a Chinese, would vote for PAS in Bagan Pinang, especially in a situation when the contest is between BN and Pakatan or between Umno and PAS.

Here are some reasons why:

1. The BN-controlled mainstream media has painted a negative picture of PAS all along;

2. But in PAS, there are moderates like Nizar Jamaluddin (menteri besar of Perak) while in Umno, there are extremists and racists like Ahmad Ismail, with his ‘pendatang’ remarks. Ahmad was never charged for sedition, but a Sin Chew reporter was arrested under the ISA;

3. In Kelantan, PAS allows the largest Buddha statue, whereas in Selangor under Umno, no churches were allowed to be built.

When PAS’ Khalid Samad tried to solve the woes of the Indian temple in Shah Alam, by proposing to move it to Section 23, it was Umno thugs who played up the ‘cow head incident’ in Shah Alam.

http://www.malaysiakini.tv/video/17689/temple-residents-march-with-cows-head.html

PAS was the only party that came forward to condemn the cow head incident, with Khalid Samad warning that any PAS member who took part in the demonstration would face the immediate sack.

On the other hand, Umno Youth chief and Home Minister Hishammuddin Hussein supported the protestors from Day One while and the former Selangor menteri besar Mohd Khir Toyo continued to defend the protestors, calling the cow (sacred to the Hindus) a ‘silly cow’;

4. In Desa Aman Putri recently, PAS, in fact, sponsored the Hungry Ghost Festival. Since joining Pakatan, PAS realises that it is no longer alienated;

5. Singer Kartika Sari Dewi was convicted for drinking beer in Pekan, the home constituency of Prime Minister Najib Abdul Razak yet Najib did nothing to save her from the disgrace of being whipped.

This incident, which most people would have immediately linked to PAS Kelantan, did not happen in a PAS-ruled state. Instead it happened in a strong Umno-ruled state;

6. While Umno’s Utusan Malaysia and Berita Harian played up racist sentiments surrounding the death of Teoh Beng Hock, I attended Teoh’s funeral in Semenyih as an observer.

What I noticed was that nearly one-third of the people who attended were either Indians or Malays from PKR and PAS. We have to cast a vote against Umno and its component parties and ask them, ‘Who told you that Teoh Beng Hock’s death was a Chinese issue?’

7. A revisit to May 13 reveals that PAS was never even involved. Only Umno. Although there were attempts to implicate PAS, the evidence is clear that the riots were mainly caused by Umno after DAP won most of the seats in Selangor.

It was also Umno which forced Tunku Abdul Rahman to step down as prime minister then.

Finally, we need a stronger platform for more check-and-balances to establish a more democratic nation.

35 wisely 11 Oct 2009, 11:59 PM

Penangites,

1.  Why DAP ‘married’ PAS twice before and then divorce? This third ‘marriage’ still look rocky!

2. How about Abu Hassan?

3.  Largest Buddha statue in Kelantan? Is this fact correct?

4.  PAS sponsor one, UMNO sponsor how many chinese functions or activities?

5.  What do u think if a Malay is caught drinking in Penang in public? He/she walks free?

6. TBH case still in court, wait for the outcome first.

7.  That’s ur version of May 13. I know there are a few versions to what actually happened. I bet both of us are too young to witness the event. So can’t be sure and don’t be so sure!

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